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    oletus Matkustaa Helsinkiin yksi päivä

    Hello! I'm from Petrozavodsk/Petroskoi, Russian Karelia/Venajan Karjala & I'm planning to visit a Helsinki for a one day. I'm visit the capital of Finland of Monday, the 1st of July.

    In the Helsinki I'm interest a public transport & architecture residential development.

    I'm interest in the following questions:
    1. Where is museum of public transport?
    2. What interest buses & trams working on the routes (very oldest or very modernist)?
    3. Where in the Helsinki districts of mass multistoree residential buildings? In the 1970-1980s in the Finland was built districts of model homes (for example Lasnamae in Tallinn). Or Aurinkolahti in Helsinki
    4. In this video in the period of video 6:58-7:19 I'm looking of district of Helsinki. Where is this district?
    5. There are houses of this type in Helsinki?
    http://fotobus.msk.ru/photo/143371/
    http://fotobus.msk.ru/photo/143735/
    http://fotobus.msk.ru/photo/143736/
    http://fotobus.msk.ru/photo/143373/
    This is houses was built in Kostomuksha/Kostamus in Venajan Karjala in 1979-1985 by Finnish builders
    6. What interest bus or tram route you can advice for review of city (excluding tram routes no. 3B & 3T)?

    Kiitos for information!

    P.S. Sorry, but I'm don't speak Finnish & therefore wrote in English.

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    Lainaus Alunperin kirjoittanut petrotrain Näytä viesti
    3. Where in the Helsinki districts of mass multistoree residential buildings? In the 1970-1980s in the Finland was built districts of model homes (for example Lasnamae in Tallinn). Or Aurinkolahti in Helsinki

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    5. There are houses of this type in Helsinki?
    Aurinkolahti is the new part of Vuosaari. The construction of housing in Aurinkolahti began in 2000 and it's still ongoing. I'm not sure what you're looking for, but Aurinkolahti is definitely not an example of 70s or 80s prefabricated housing.

    One of the earliest large-scale prefabricated housing projects in Finland was the Pihlajamäki district in Helsinki, built mostly between 1959 and 1965. See e.g. this StreetView. Many of the buildings have protected status today.

    By far the most famous architectural example of a planned 'garden city' district of this period in Finland is Tapiola in Espoo, just outside of the border of Helsinki. The buildings of Tapiola were designed by the top architects of the day (Aarne Ervi, Viljo Revell, Aulis Blomstedt etc.), so they're not exactly an example of the nasty prefabricated blocks that followed in the 70s and 80s in many places. The center of Tapiola is currently being rebuilt to a large extent. The construction projects include a metro station, one of eight along the western metro extension that is to be opened in 2016.

    If you're looking for lots of 70s and 80s prefab-fantastic construction, try the suburbs along the Vantaankoski track (M train), e.g Myyrmäki (StreetView) or Martinlaakso (StreetView).

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    Lainaus Alunperin kirjoittanut petrotrain Näytä viesti
    Hello! I'm from Petrozavodsk/Petroskoi, Russian Karelia/Venajan Karjala & I'm planning to visit a Helsinki for a one day. I'm visit the capital of Finland of Monday, the 1st of July.

    In the Helsinki I'm interest a public transport & architecture residential development.

    I'm interest in the following questions:
    1. Where is museum of public transport?
    There is a tram museum next to a tram depot in the Töölö district, a few kilometers from the city centre. You can get there with any bus that leaves from the Elielinaukio bus terminal or by trams 3T, 4, 7A and 10. Their collection is pretty small though, compared to other transport museums around the world.

    http://www.hel.fi/hki/Museo/en/Museu...ns/Tram+Museum

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    Lainaus Alunperin kirjoittanut petrotrain Näytä viesti
    I'm interest in the following questions:
    1. Where is museum of public transport?
    I suggest riding a living heritage tram instead of the gratis but dull tram museum: http://www.stadinratikat.fi/english/museoliikenne.html

    Lainaus Alunperin kirjoittanut petrotrain Näytä viesti
    3. Where in the Helsinki districts of mass multistoree residential buildings? In the 1970-1980s in the Finland was built districts of model homes (for example Lasnamae in Tallinn).
    Take a commuter train (Lähijuna/Närtåg) to anywhere, eg. N or K-train to Kerava/Kervo with some "commieblock" districts within: at least Puistola/Parkstad, Koivukylä/Björkby and Korso. You will not be disappointed. Or bus number 77 to Jakomäki/Jakobacka, or metro towards Mellunmäki/Mellungsbacka. Prefab concrete slab houses at least near Itäkeskus/Östra centrum, Myllypuro/Kvarnbäcken and Kontula/Gårdsbacka on the metro route. Not as megalomaniac as in Russian Federation though.


    Lainaus Alunperin kirjoittanut petrotrain Näytä viesti
    6. What interest bus or tram route you can advice for review of city (excluding tram routes no. 3B & 3T)
    1 to Käpylä/Kottby
    4 to Munkkiniemi/Munksnäs
    8 and 9 to Jätkäsaari/Busholmen (9 goes straight to West Terminal). It's interesting to see a completely empty space in the city centre, full of abandoned asphalt and concrete when the harbour left to Vuosaari/Nordsjö… the same applies to Kalasatama/Fiskhamnen as well, access by metro.
    Sakari Kestinen

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    Lainaus Alunperin kirjoittanut petrotrain Näytä viesti
    4. In this video in the period of video 6:58-7:19 I'm looking of district of Helsinki. Where is this district?
    Those two suburbs in that video starting at 6:58 are Pihlajamäki and Kannelmäki.

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    Lainaus Alunperin kirjoittanut b10m55 Näytä viesti
    Those two suburbs in that video starting at 6:58 are Pihlajamäki and Kannelmäki.
    You can get there with buses 71 and 43, respectively.

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    Thank you veru much for more information!
    I will try to go round all the city tram network, visit tram museum in Toolo & some "commieblock" districts. Well & certainly history center.

    I will plan to write impressions after the trip.

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    And one more question:
    Where is in Helsinki is non-smoking? I'm read recomendation for tourists, but in this recomendations mention almost the same non-smoking places as in Russia after June 1, 2013 (Differences: in Finland non-smoke zone in residential areas, in Russia non-smoke zone near (at least 15 meters) entrances of bus, railway, metro stations & airports). I rely on the principle - "do as the locals", but this principle can sometimes take a violation of the law. I don't want to violate the law. Especially in another country. My fellow citizens who break the law in Finland, and so probably enough.

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    Rule of thumb: never smoke indoors and public transit stops/stations when under a canopy (eg. on central railway station platform and in bus/train stop shelters.
    Sakari Kestinen

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    Lainaus Alunperin kirjoittanut petrotrain Näytä viesti
    Thank you veru much for more information!
    I will try to ... visit ... history center.
    The old town of Helsinki is quite a curious thing. Many people in Helsinki don't even know Helsinki /has/ an old town in the first place. The city was originally founded at the end of a bay, as it was considered a safe place for a harbour to compete with that of Tallinn. However, the water in the bay was to shallow for ships to pass, so the city's location was a failure of a kind... Some hundred years later they pretty much moved the city a bit less than 10 km south of the original location. The old town of Helsinki has a handful of wooden houses and a couple of memorial stones. Plus some very beautiful nature right next door: The bay of sea with some nice rapids, a small waterfall and the technical museum of Helsinki.
    Might make sense walking from the northern end stop of tram line #1 over there
    I made a small map for you: http://pk.reittiopas.fi/ru/#from%28p...28%29%28%29%29 .
    That route takes you from the end stop of tram #1, past (and around) the bus and tram depot of Koskela (marked as "Linja-auto- ja raitiov.varikko" on the map), to a location where the first church in Helsinki used to be located (waypoint #3), a memorial stone for securing the Swedish-Russian border several centuries ago (Waypoint #4), over the nice bridge in front of the small waterfall (between waypoints #5 and #6, not known by the map), past the technical museum's premises, over two beautiful bridges, along a nice seaside walkway and eventually to the end stop of tram lines #8 and #6.

    Also, you should definitely pay a visit to the Suomenlinna sea fortress from some 300 years ago, which is on the UNESCO list of world heritage for a very good reason. A good amount of cool tunnels/caves to explore in the southern end of the 1 km * 1,5 km large fortress and generally some damn beautiful scenery just about everywhere I guess the longest tunnel/cave is some 200 metres long. There are two ferries there: One operated by a private company and one that can be used by a bus ticket
    Takes some 3-4 hours to visit thoroughly plus 15 minutes per direction on the ferry. Plus whatever time you want to spend in the museums there. At least the military museum also has almost everything written also in Russian and I'd guess so does the museum in the submarine Vesikko.

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    Kiitos for more information! I'm promised write my impressions, but I have no free time. I write my impressions in Russian only & not translate to English or Finnish languages. You can do the the translation in http://translate.google.com/. I tried to write in Russian without the use of jargon and acronyms, words to the text to be translated in Google. I recommend this text translated into English by Google. When I translated the Finnish texts in Google into English and Russian, I saw that these are two completely different texts with a different meaning. In the Russian version of some of the words were English.

    This is my impressions:
    Part 1
    Part 2

    Link to photos I will post later.

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    So after I had a few hiccups with the google translator, your text about your staying here was pleasant to read. After reading it questions pop up in ones mind the most concerning one would be that would you come again to Helsinki?

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    After reading it questions pop up in ones mind the most concerning one would be that would you come again to Helsinki?
    Yes, but I need a free time. I study in university & work in linja-autoasema together. I liked the city. Very interesting and beautiful. The urban transport system is also of great interest. Especially since I have proved to myself that while riding one day amount of expenses is not more than a trip to Moscow. In general, not that expensive it seemed to me.
    In the near future I plan to trip with only in Joensuu. After the opening of bus route Petroskoi - Joensuu.
    As I promised, post photos.
    http://vk.com/album44102578_176468348

    Photos of trams & buses I will post in Russian Transport Photogalleries.

    Thank you very much to all who helped me in this forum.
    If you have any questions about the features and rules of behavior in Russia. On the possibility to spend less money when you travel to Russia. In Russia in terms of tourist information, all significantly worse than in Finland. English is relatively good known to those who were born after 1985. At the same time in Moscow and St. Petersburg, you can still communicate without any problems in English. In other regions of Russia with this can be a problem. Then just sign language & pen+notebook as helped me to K-market near Vuosaari metro station. Russia in terms of tourism - Asian country. Here for foreigners prices (e.g. in museums) are usually much higher than for the citizens of the country (as in Uzbekistan and other Central Asian countries). I'm on this forum do not often. You can post a topic in this forum. And send me an mail: petrotrain2012(erityistä alfa kirje)yandex.ru. Should write what you want to go to a region of the Russia, so I did not consider it spam. I will try to help you. But I can hardly give information on the hotels

    I am visited this regions of Russia (Large by Russian standards (more than 100,000 inh.) of the city: Petroskoi, Murmansk, Arkangeli, Severodvinsk, Rybinsk, Novokuznetsk, Moskova, Nižni Novgorod, Novgorod, Pihkova, Jekaterinburg, Tšeljabinsk, Vologda & Tšerepovets).The small towns (less than 100,000 inh.) I visited about 50-60: map
    Viimeisin muokkaaja petrotrain; 04.07.2013 kello 15:52.

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    Lainaus Alunperin kirjoittanut petrotrain Näytä viesti
    As I promised, post photos.
    The plaque about Risto Ryti actually says "Risto Ryti practiced law in this house in 1914-1923", he didn't live there.

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